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Name:   want2beonlake The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Obama's own words ....
Date:   9/18/2008 12:52:52 PM

First of all - have you even really read the thesis? Or again just spreading whatever you seem to google and copy and past. and yes, I did copy and paste this so please don't try that feeble jab.

I know how much you claim to love "facts" (except when they prove you wrong) so here goes.

The allegation is that Obama's wife wrote a paper in college that said America was a nation founded on "crime and hatred" and that whites in America are "ineradicably racist."
Chain e-mail on Tuesday, May 13th, 2008 in a chain e-mail

Her senior thesis doesn't say that

A chain e-mail about Michelle Obama purports to be excerpts from a senior thesis she wrote while at Princeton University.

It's true that Obama, then Michelle Robinson, attended Princeton and wrote a thesis titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community."

In Obama's thesis, she sought to quantify how the attitudes of black Princeton alumni changed after graduation in regard to race relations and social change. Obama was especially interested in the attitudes of Princeton alumni in regard to improving the lives of lower-income blacks.

To document the change in attitudes, Obama devised an 18-question survey and mailed it to black alumni. Her thesis is a discussion of her methodology and an analysis of the results. It contains a limited amount of personal opinion in the introduction.

But the thesis did not say that the United States was founded on "crime and hatred" and that whites in America are "ineradicably racist." This appears to be a complete fabrication.

The thesis is available on the Internet; the politics news site Politico reported on it in February 2008 and posted a copy it had obtained from Princeton University.

We downloaded a copy, which appears to be complete with no numbered pages missing. We read it, but we did not find the phrases the e-mail describes.

We took the additional step of scanning the document through optical character recognition software so we could search its text electronically. An automated search did not find the words "crime," "hatred," "hate," "ineradicably," or "racist" in the document.

The e-mail goes on to list some accurate quotes from the thesis, but its initial accusations are fiction. The words "crime and hatred" and "ineradicably racist" are inventions of whoever penned the e-mail, not words that appeared in Obama's thesis. Because of that fabrication and the e-mail's intention to defame the Obamas, we rate this claim Pants on Fire!

Here is another site for you - pretty good because it deals with all of the candidates and not just the ones you love to hate...

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
Obama's own words .... - water_watcher - 9/17/2008 8:30:04 PM
     Obama's own words .... - old blue chair - 9/17/2008 8:38:32 PM
     Obama's own words .... - Lady - 9/17/2008 8:55:33 PM
          Obama's own words .... - water_watcher - 9/17/2008 9:14:43 PM
               Obama's own words .... - water_watcher - 9/17/2008 9:18:21 PM
                    Lady - Wise Up - PC Al - 9/17/2008 9:22:37 PM
                         To PC Al - Lady - 9/17/2008 9:57:34 PM
                              To PC Al - dvine - 9/18/2008 12:19:44 AM
                                   To PC Al - water_watcher - 9/18/2008 7:10:08 AM
                              To PC Al - water_watcher - 9/18/2008 7:04:29 AM
                                   To PC Al - dvine - 9/18/2008 8:49:29 AM
                                        To PC Al - jrh3 - 9/18/2008 9:01:36 AM
                    Obama's own words .... - want2beonlake - 9/18/2008 12:52:52 PM
                         Obama's own words .... - 4thelake - 9/18/2008 1:06:03 PM
                         Obama's own words .... - water_watcher - 9/18/2008 1:16:31 PM
                              Obama's own words .... - want2beonlake - 9/18/2008 3:43:37 PM
                                   Obama's own words .... - water_watcher - 9/18/2008 4:54:01 PM
                                        Obama's own words .... - want2beonlake - 9/18/2008 6:35:34 PM
                                             I saw that spin .... - water_watcher - 9/18/2008 8:45:14 PM
                                                  I saw that spin .... - Laker - 9/20/2008 11:46:37 PM
                                                       I saw that spin .... - Laker - 9/21/2008 12:00:40 AM



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