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	Name:	water_watcher -
	Subject:	Hound, help me out !
	Date:	3/4/2011 1:01:18 PM

What is their to negotiate when it comes to "benefits" like healthcare and pensions.

I have worked for over 30 years ... they were what the company or firm was providing. I did not have a choice other than if I did not think they were good enough, I could go work elsewhere.

Some companies are better than others and the employee decides that in who they work for. No one is suggesting state or federal workers should have a terrible program ... but it should not be better than the private sector. After all it is paid by tax payers that work in the private sector ... so why should the program ever be better than those who have to fund it.

So again, what is there to negotiate? In a worst case scenario, a state takes away all benefits (not going to happen or is any one suggesting such) ... but if it did happen, then no one would want to work for the state, they would lose good employees that go to work elsewhere. So what is it that the union needs to negotiate?