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Name:   water_watcher The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   If you support the healthcare
Date:   8/15/2009 5:50:51 PM

you are so out of touch ... and dreaming. The reason socialized medicine has "failed" everywhere and people come to the US for treatment and good care is because of these things. We are a capitalist society and your comment that bio techs will continue to "invest" demonstrates how out of touch you are. They get their money from "investors" for their research for hope that they get a breakthrough drug that can make billions of dollars including covering the billions they put in to research. What investor in their right mind would take the risk to fund reseach knowing the potential profits will be limited.

Do you understand the concept of risk and reward in capitalism.

I will take a bet that if this passes, by the end of Obama's first term we will be on a single payer system as the ONLY way to truely control costs. Doctors entering medical school will be on the decline, new drug research investments will be greatly down, and will have already started to see long waits for appointments and allocated care.

GF has already stated that "there will ALWAYS be a private option" ... there will be "private" coverage available, just like in Canada for those that can afford it. So to that end I agree that there will be a private option. But that is NOT the goal of Obama or the dems. They want a government plan and only a government plan that is offered to private citizens, yet congress will be exempted from the plan.

I will support the bill 100% if every democrat in congress signs on for the "government plan" and does not exempt themselves for their own special plan. If it is good enough for the people they represent, it should be good enough for them and their families.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 2:20:27 PM
     If you support the healthcare - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 4:33:35 PM
     If you support the healthcare - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 4:45:15 PM
          There is a bill - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:37:02 PM
               I have looked at it - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 9:23:33 PM
               There is a bill - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:44:30 PM
     If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 5:21:46 PM
          If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:50:51 PM
               WW Are you serious - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 7:54:08 PM
                    WW Are you serious - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:09:36 PM
               If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:15:00 PM
                    If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:16:28 PM
                         If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 11:52:56 PM
                              If you support the healthcare - Yankee06 - 8/16/2009 1:15:35 AM
                                   Good post - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:33:36 AM
                                        WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:40:11 AM
                                             WW - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:22:04 AM
                                                  WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:13:58 PM
                                                       sad, isn't it ... (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:22:21 PM
                                             WW .........socialist - Barneget - 8/16/2009 5:31:21 PM
                                   My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:35:26 AM
                                        It's not just a bill - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:28:20 AM
                                             Amen ... thank you! (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:30:43 AM
                                             And I - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:18:51 PM
                                        My Only Point is This - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:29:07 AM
                                             My Only Point is This - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:36:15 AM
                                                  Water Man - GoneFishin - 8/16/2009 1:28:13 PM
                                                       Water Man - architect - 8/16/2009 1:34:36 PM
                                                       Fishy - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 2:20:58 PM
                                             My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:28:49 PM
                                                  Please read ... - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:33:50 PM
                                                       France - architect - 8/16/2009 7:10:11 PM
                                                            And BTW WW - architect - 8/16/2009 7:18:12 PM
                                                                 I now give Obama credit - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:42:21 PM
                                                                 just so you know - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:48:47 PM
                                                            France - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:24:40 PM
                                                       $50 and $100m ? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 7:27:08 PM
                                                            $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:45:29 PM
                                                                 $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 8:14:54 PM
                                                                      and FYI - architect - 8/16/2009 8:25:54 PM
                                                                           and FYI further - architect - 8/16/2009 8:32:39 PM
                                                                                and FYI further - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:17:32 PM
                                                                           and FYI - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:14:57 PM
                                                                      $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:13:40 PM
                                                                           $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 9:41:27 PM
                                                                                you are so - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:57:30 PM
                                                                                     So I'm I to assume - architect - 8/16/2009 10:19:57 PM
                                                                                          So I'm I to assume - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:27:02 PM
                                                                                               DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 11:11:36 PM
                                                                                                    DEATH PANELS? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 11:17:35 PM
                                                                                                         DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:09:30 AM
                                                                                                         Also - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:14:16 AM
                                                                                                              Also - architect - 8/17/2009 9:03:22 AM



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