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Name:   water_watcher The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Good post
Date:   8/16/2009 9:33:36 AM

I think you hit on some very good points:

1. HR3200 was/is the bill and thank God there was push back forcing discussion and change to the bill.

2. A huge part of the cost is coverage for "all" and how does that not include illegals, or what happens when a known illegal asks for care.

3. Why does there have to be a "government plan" that could lead to a single payer socialist program, especially when Obama himself has said that is his objective and that he while you can keep your private insurance, he will make it attractive (initially) for businesses and individuals to switch to the government plan.

4. If costs are capped through doctors fees and drug prices, how do you prevent gradual decline in the overall quality of healthcare. Part of the reason it is the quality it is and availability is because it is through free enterprise. That can be costly.

5. Adddress one of the real cost driver, medical malpractice through tort reform. Let Obama show he will ignore the lobbists and do what is right to control healthcare cost.

6. Make whatever bill that passes, be the SAME program all members of congress must be on.

7. I just heard Obama on the Sunday talk shows with his one liners and one he said ... there were the same fear tactics when social security was being introduced and that did not turn out to be true. I disagree ... social security is a socialist program that has done more harm than good. It was miss run by the government, it is bankrupt, there have been all sorts of broken promises to the original plan and far more costly. I still say, let me out today and i will let them keep all my money i put in and i only have a maximum of 8 years left to pay in.

8. Finally i think the bill should ONLY address what they say are problems and simplify the program.
a. people that lose their jobs keep their insurance for a period of time at no cost, then at a ramp up of cost
b. people are not denied coverage because of an existing illness
c. tort reform

That should be enough to start with, without a government "public" option. That is a small percentage of the population. Lets see the ideas on those areas and the cost before a total overhaul.
Other messages in this thread:View Entire Thread
If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 2:20:27 PM
     If you support the healthcare - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 4:33:35 PM
     If you support the healthcare - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 4:45:15 PM
          There is a bill - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:37:02 PM
               I have looked at it - Talullahhound - 8/15/2009 9:23:33 PM
               There is a bill - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:44:30 PM
     If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 5:21:46 PM
          If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 5:50:51 PM
               WW Are you serious - GoneFishin - 8/15/2009 7:54:08 PM
                    WW Are you serious - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:09:36 PM
               If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 10:15:00 PM
                    If you support the healthcare - water_watcher - 8/15/2009 11:16:28 PM
                         If you support the healthcare - JustAGuy - 8/15/2009 11:52:56 PM
                              If you support the healthcare - Yankee06 - 8/16/2009 1:15:35 AM
                                   Good post - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:33:36 AM
                                        WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:40:11 AM
                                             WW - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:22:04 AM
                                                  WW - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:13:58 PM
                                                       sad, isn't it ... (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:22:21 PM
                                             WW .........socialist - Barneget - 8/16/2009 5:31:21 PM
                                   My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 9:35:26 AM
                                        It's not just a bill - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:28:20 AM
                                             Amen ... thank you! (nfm) - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:30:43 AM
                                             And I - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:18:51 PM
                                        My Only Point is This - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:29:07 AM
                                             My Only Point is This - Freshwater Bay Girl - 8/16/2009 10:36:15 AM
                                                  Water Man - GoneFishin - 8/16/2009 1:28:13 PM
                                                       Water Man - architect - 8/16/2009 1:34:36 PM
                                                       Fishy - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 2:20:58 PM
                                             My Only Point is This - Talullahhound - 8/16/2009 4:28:49 PM
                                                  Please read ... - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 5:33:50 PM
                                                       France - architect - 8/16/2009 7:10:11 PM
                                                            And BTW WW - architect - 8/16/2009 7:18:12 PM
                                                                 I now give Obama credit - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:42:21 PM
                                                                 just so you know - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:48:47 PM
                                                            France - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:24:40 PM
                                                       $50 and $100m ? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 7:27:08 PM
                                                            $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 7:45:29 PM
                                                                 $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 8:14:54 PM
                                                                      and FYI - architect - 8/16/2009 8:25:54 PM
                                                                           and FYI further - architect - 8/16/2009 8:32:39 PM
                                                                                and FYI further - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:17:32 PM
                                                                           and FYI - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:14:57 PM
                                                                      $50 and $100m ? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:13:40 PM
                                                                           $50 and $100m ? - architect - 8/16/2009 9:41:27 PM
                                                                                you are so - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 9:57:30 PM
                                                                                     So I'm I to assume - architect - 8/16/2009 10:19:57 PM
                                                                                          So I'm I to assume - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 10:27:02 PM
                                                                                               DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/16/2009 11:11:36 PM
                                                                                                    DEATH PANELS? - water_watcher - 8/16/2009 11:17:35 PM
                                                                                                         DEATH PANELS? - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:09:30 AM
                                                                                                         Also - JustAGuy - 8/17/2009 12:14:16 AM
                                                                                                              Also - architect - 8/17/2009 9:03:22 AM



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